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glasses. that wasn't actually good trial. we were trying to help him. he couldn't see it. >> you're still in? >> oh, she's here. you're here. fine. if you're doing nothing, listen to the stones this morning. it's a great album. i'm just going to meander off. >> if it's way too early, it's time for "morning joe" and up next, it's "the daily rundown." x . thanks for the effort, guys. as boston's boylston street reopens, back in washington, senators go behind closed doors as questions grow about intelligence information and whether the fbi knew more about the suspects long before the attacks. also this morning, a deep dive into the massachusetts senate primary. it's six days from today. and looking at how the boston
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bombing has shaped the final few days of the campaign. how the special election is a different story from scott brown's win three years ago. and find out what president obama told my old pal, savannah guthrie, about his predecessor on the eve of the grand opening of the george bush presidential library in dallas, texas. >> good morning, this is jenny mcbride coming to you from the spectacular colorado national monument in mesa county, colorado. today's wednesday and it's time for the daily rundown and now, here's chuck todd. >> thanks to jenny for sending that to us from the colorado national monument. you'll always get national parks on the show when you send them from there. my first reads of the morning. as we said, boston's boylston street reopened to the public at 3:30 a.m. this morning and the t is stop iping again as the city
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tries to return the life after the tragedy just nine days ago. vice president biden travels to cambridge today for the funeral of sean collier. he was killeded allegedly by boston marathon suspects. on capitol hill, lawmakers are raising questions about who knew what and when. the more information congress learns, the more questions they have about whether pre 9/11 problems are back. there's accusations of an intelligence failure. susan collins spoke after a two-hour closed door briefing with intelligence officials. >> that is troubling to me that this many years after the attacks on our country in 2001, that we still seem to have stove pipes that prevent information from being shared effectively not only among agencies, but
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also within the same agency in one case. >> interesting allegation there. senate intelligence committee chair dianne feinstein, who requested the briefing, was pressed by reporters about whether the fbi may have mishandled information about tamerlan tsarnaev. she defended the agency. >> we need to keep at that and we need to see if there are any loopholes in it that we fix those loopholes. >> did the fbi drop the -- >> no. this intelligence division of the fbi and this country is working and working well. >> lawmakers questions have focused on tsarnaev's six month trip in 2012 to dagestan and chechnya. janet napolitano was grilled about what the department knew about that trip. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia and if you
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weren't, the reason. >> yes. the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned, all investigations had been, the matter had been closed. >> is it true that his identity document did not match his airline ticket and if so, why did tsa miss the discrepancy? >> there was a mismatch there. >> i'm dumbfounded with with her answer. i was told two nights ago that in march, they got a letter from the russian intelligence services that the older brother was a radical islamist, watch out for him. now, i hear from the homeland security secretary that we did know he left the country, we just didn't know he came back. this makes no sense to me. how in the world could we have missed all of this and this is why we need a national security legal system to focus on gathering intelligence. >> let's bring in nbc's justice
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correspondent, pete williams. so, pete, i can't help the system pinged. that is a little bit of a different story about what we knew about tamerlan tsarnaev's travels or not. was he on a watch list? wasn't he not? by her saying that, she's implying he was on a watch list. >> so, it would appear. i think it's fair to say that the, we don't know the answer to that because we're getting different answers from the intelligence community about whether he was ever put on a watch list. i guess there's two ways to look at this. the individual specifics about precisely how this was handled, but if you step back, there's a larger question here. that is when a foreign government gives us potentially derogatory information about someone, stop right there. should that create an entry for that person in the system? then keep going down the process. here, the fbi says they looked
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thoroughly at him, as much as they were allowed to do during this legal operation they're going in in this initial threat assessment. they find nothing. should that keep the listing, the watch listing active? or should it go away? these are and then if that person then flies to the country that complained about him, should that raise another red flag? i think these are the questions now that the intel community is looking at. >> let's not forget something you pointed out. this was russia complaining about a chechnyan national. we granted this family political asylum. >> i think everyone understands that's in the background here. the fbi insists that did not color the way they handled this case and it's interesting to me that the members come out of the this briefing wildly different assessments about what happened here and about whether you heard dianne feinstein say she's convinced she didn't drop the
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ball. i think that you know, obviously, this is going to be a question that's very thoroughly looked at in terms of how specifically this case was handled, under whatever the legal rules were in effect at the time, that's issue one. but issue two i think is this broader question of are we watch listing the right people. >> and then finally, there's this boston globe story that used richard burr, republican senator from north carolina, claiming multiple contacts by the russian government to the fbi regarding tamerlan and there's some dispute there, explain. >> here the fbi has told us and again today, that is not true. they say they were contacted by the russians once. now, they never say russians. they say another country, but we know it's the russians. once in early 2011, that's what led to this initial threat assessment. the fbi says it went back to the russians and said we got nothing on this guy, can you give us more information to go on and that they never heard back from the russians about him again.
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>> pete williams on the case for us. thank you, sir. turning to an unexpected document and another security story. remember the investigation into ricin? that's the poison allegedly intended for the white house and roger wicker. well, the fbi apparently nabbed the wrong man. in mississippi, a federal judge released kevin paul curtis after the fbi dropped all charges against him with those letters. >> i respect president obama. i love my country. and would never do anything to pose a threat to him or any other u.s. official. this past week has been a nightmare for myself and my family. >> investigators say the fbi found no evidence in a ricin in a search of his home. so as he was being released, the fbi was searching the tupelo home of a man name jay edward
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duski, an acquaintance of curtis. he says he is innocent. in moments, it began to look like a blooper reel. >> what are you plans right now? your immediate plans? >> find my dog moo cow. >> moo cow got away. >> she got loose when homeland security swarmed in on me when i went to check my mail. i haven't heard anything. i just really worried about her. i bought a fish a week before -- >> got moo cow. >> my brother's found moo cow. >> moo cow is fine. >> we're not making this up, folks. then there's the added fact that curtis happens to be an elvis impersonator who once performed at a party wicker was given. when senator reid was asked for his reaction of his release, he had none, but did reveal another
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threat that hadn't been made public. >> we've had another incident today i'm told at bowling air force base of the same substa e substance, so i don't know. i do not know -- >> here's what we can tell you. the defense intelligence agency says alarms went off tuesday at a mail facility at bowling air base indicating the possible presence of dangerous toxins. tests found no specific packages, but they are taking more samples. so, while questions about information sharing in boston and the head scratching turn of events in mississippi are two separate stories, they don't do much to bolster the sense of intelligence improvements in post 9/11 america. let's move to the biggest campaign news of the week. yesterday should have been a high five day for the republican party in its quest to pick up
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the six senate seats they need to win the majority in 2014. max baucus announced unexpectedly he's retiring, giving republicans a prime pick-up opportunity in a state where obama won just 42% of the vote in 2012 and if republicans are going to put the senate in play in 2014, their path goes through the midwest and mountain west region where -- make republican shots on payer of a hat trick look pretty good. but republicans have to win a minimum of two of those three seats to be in the game for the majority and no republican chances look good in south dakota, where mike brouns is already in the race. there are problems in montana and iowa. they're dipping into the second tier of candidates. baucus has never been popular in washington. at best, democrats treated him with respect because they feared him and his power in the finance committee, but the guy was disciplined, raised a will the of money and in an odd way,
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parts of the democratic party are somehow ecstatic today that he's retiring. democrats right now appear more prepared to land a good candidate in former governor brian schweitzer than republicans do, although that is still far from settled. republicans have the same problem today they had yesterday before baucus announced. they don't have a top tier candidate and the bench is fairly thin for republicans in montana. the only big name they think they have a better shot at is the form rer governor, mark rosco. but it's been a while since he ran a race there. meanwhile in iowa, where senator tom harken is retiring, republicans are now having to dip into the second and maybe third tier of candidacies. can't think juggernaut just yet, but republicans are treating him like one. yesterday, the best hope of national republicans today, lieutenant governor kim reynolds decided not to run for the seat. congress tom lathen said he
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doesn't plan to run, although republicans are still holding out hope he might change his mind. now, they're starting to look at state senators. if you were to tell republicans that before april of 2013, they would have three open seats in iowa, south dakota and montana, mitch mcconnell might be already measuring the drapes, but all three things have happened and only one of those prass looks like the republicans are even favoreded right now. much more on our website after the show. about how retirements are scrambling the senate landscape and that's what it is. it's a real scramble. which seats democrats need to hang on to to keep control of the is that the. don't miss it. a lot more stuff in there than just what's on the show. up next, with questions growing about what the intelligence community should have known about the boston bombing suspect, we're going to talk to a xhong man who gets a lot of insider briefings, mike mccaul. we'll see what he can tell us,
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i still say the main question is the fbi's
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investigation going back to 2011. and why it was not followed up since then. the answers given, but again, look into it more. >> that was new york republican congressman peter king. just one of several lawmakers questioning whether the fbi did enough to investigate the tsarnaev brothers and whether the agency fayed to share critical evidence. joining me now is michael mccaul. he attended tuesday's briefing on the bombings. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks for having me, chuck. >> i want to start with what was the sort of sound bite of the day yesterday from janet napolitano when she said the tamerlan tsarnaev, when he traveled to russia, the m pinged. now, you were just, my understanding, you just said in another interview that you believe that homeland security never told fbi about this travel. that that's among the things you learned. tell me more about this.
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>> we don't know the answer to that question, but that is the question because when i was briefed by the fbi, they told me they had no knowledge of his overseas trip to the chechen region and when the secretary then testifies and said they got pinged. that there was a flag that went up that did indicate he was traveling to russia and to the region. that's very important because this russian intelligence communique warns about this individual travels outside of the united states to join extremists underground groups, and so, you know, we talked a lot about connecting the dots and stove pipes after 9/11 and here we are 12 years later and the fact remains it's not working. what i'd like to know is whether or not the department of homeland security shared that information with the fbi and the joint terrorism task force that could have led to opening this lead investigation back up on the older brother. >> now, if the system pinged and
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there's an implication he was on a watch list, but that's been, seems to be a mixed reporting on that. pete williams has been saying and reporting on our air that some agencies have said maybe he was on a watch list. others said he wasn't. what have you learned? >> well, he was on a tide list, which is different from the terrorist watch list. either way, his name should have popped up. now, there were a lot of clerical errors. i wouldn't say a comedy of errors, but a lot of information on clerical errors that prevented the fbi from getting that information. on the other hand, we know the department of homeland security did have that information and so part of my rule is to ask the right questions to get to the bottom of what happened so that we can prevent this sort of you know, tragedy from happening again. >> now, you've also stated that you believe an overseas connection can't be ruled out. do you have any evidence to back
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up that claim? >> and again, my role is to ask the questions. right now, we know that the older brother who had more of the information, did travel overseas to a very hostile part of the world, the chechen rebels have had a long standing affiliation with al-qaeda. what i'm a little bit amazed about, this rush to judgment that there's no foreign connection at all when the fbi in their own r words have just starteded this investigation. they are just now scrubbing his computers. the older brother's. they're finally interview iing people overseas. i think it's way too premature to be coming to conclusions about whether there was a foreign connection or not. >> let's put yourself in the fbi's shoes say three years ago. two years ago, when this complaint comes in. this is a family given political asylum based on treatment by the russians and we know that the russians that this is a civil
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war at sorts at times or looks like a civil war and then is it the responsibility of the u.s. government to inform another foreign government that hey, someone you don't like is is travels overseas, oh, by the way, a person you thought deserved political asylum. how much of this is hindsight versus what should be what the intelligence community should be focused on? >> correct. and you know, worked with the fbi joint terrorism task forces, i would like to give them the benefit of the doubt. the communique knowing that the russians hate the chechens. but it still doesn't answer the question about what he was doing there. there have been reports he was potentially meet wg these underground groups as the russians did warn and so again, my point is that they are just now going overseas to investigate and interview witnesses. just now looking at his computer
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and i think it's very premature and irresponsible to conclude there's no foreign connection when the fbi's just started their investigation into this case. >> quickly, you're push iing a bill called the cyber intelligence sharing and protection act. t a bill that was passed by the house last year. died in the senate last year. but it would allow folks to do, it would allow corporations to pass user data to the federal government for security purposes. the white house right now has threatened a veto on this. what are the safeguards for personal civil liberties in this bill? that seems to be among the issues that some folks have. >> let me back up. that's a mike rogers intelligence bill. i provided the mccaul amendment, the privacy amendment that provided a civilian interface to the private sector rather han the military and nsa. i think my amendment was actually praised by the privacy
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group, supported by the aclu. i also intend to develop a cyber bill out of the committee on homeland security that deals with the role of d hrkhs and th sharing of threat information with the private sector and critical infrastructures to better protect them so we don't see financial institutions coming down and all the critical infrastructures out there. so i look forward, i've actually worked with the white house on my amendment and my bill, which i think is going to get more praise because it does have a civilian interface rather than military. >> all right. chairman of the house homeland security committee. thanks for coming on the show this morning. >> appreciate you having me. >> still ahead, how the bombing in boston is affecting next week's primary election. politics goes on, folks. plus, rand paul. did he create a problem in his own base? why his usual loyal fans are up in arms today. and ahead of tomorrow's
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liquor store with a weapon and $50 in cash, i don't care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him. we shouldn't be willy-nilly, looking into everyone's backyard what they're doing, but if there's a killer on the loose in a neighborhood, i'm not against drones being used to search them out. heat seeking devices being used. >> but in march, he took to the senate floor to question whether or not they had the authority to carry out drone attacks on u.s. citize citizens. he 'leased a statement saying my comments last night left the impression that my position on drones had changed. armed drones should not be used in normal crime situations. they may only be considered in extraordinary lethal situations where there is an ongoing, imminent threat. that seems to be what the entire debate is about. so, i thought. a group led by haley barbour and
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other republicans called americans for conservative direction. it's up with an ad on the air and it happens to feature senator marco rubio. in the ad seen here, it sahe is pushing the toughest measures in history. statewide in florida, then across these markets in texas, utah, north carolina, iowa and kentucky. you can see the republican senators that are being targeted right there. for the thing. john cornyn, mike lee, ted cruise, rand paul all in the ad buy. finally, ever wonder what president obama thinks of his predecessor? savannah guthrie had that sit-down with president obama the day of the boston bombings, before it happened. they talked about a lot of stuff. life in the white house, but also his thoughts on former president bush who he's going to
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speak about tomorrow. here's what he said. >> well, i've always thought that president bush was gracious, patriotic. he couldn't have been nicer when we made the transition in. we have a good friendly relationship. obviously, some disagreements in terms of policy, but there's no doubt that anybody who takes on this job has a greater appreciation for the challenges involved. >> we're going to be live tomorrow morning at the george w. bush library dedication. it's a packed show. bunch of former bush people will be there. cabinet secretaries, tom ridge, margaret spelling. it's a gathering of all the living presidents in one place. it's always something that everybody should be interested in watching. opening bell just rang on wall street. the markets bounced back after tuesday's dip following the b bogus tweet about an attack on
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the white house. media people look at bogus tweets and they know it might be a bogus tweet. wall street people think sell. things aren't looking to good this morning after a sharp decline in orders for durable goods. up next, special election. always takes on a whole new meaning in some places and in massachusetts, it's a big difference and a big deal that's about to kick back off as boston tries to get back to normal. we're taking a deep dive into the race for john kerry's old senate seat. the humble back seat.
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for some, politics may be the last thing on the minds of folks in washington, in boston, and across the bay state, never the less, primaries in the race to fill john kerry's senate seat are less than a week away and you can tell the political cease fire that followeded the bombing is over. today, we're taking a deep dive
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in the massachusetts races. believe it or not, and the frantic fight to the finish. before last monday, much of the political oxygen was taken up by issues playing out nationally. candidates were arguing over gun, bipartisanship and the keystone pipeline. dan winslow and gabriel gomez were debating washington politics and the se guester. that was before two bombs exploded. lynch stood behind deval patrick at a press conference on the attack. for lynch, his ties were personal. he had known the family of martin richard for 25 years. >> this is a wonderful, wonderful family. you know, the richard family and the o'brien family, you know, denise's maiden name is o'brien. just good people. >> a second bombing victim,
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crystal k krystle campbell, lived in massachusetts's fifth district. attended her funeral and spoke about the 29-year-old victim after the attack. >> she grew up down the street from my office and so, at the same time that i'm a candidate and i've suspended all campaigning, i'm also a congressman. i have a reasonability to all of the families that have been affected in my district and everyone else in the state. >> the bombings have shaken up the gop contest as well. gabriel gomez was running in the marathon and had finished the race moments before the bombs went off. gomez, a former navy s.e.a.l. related his military experience to what he witnessed last week. >> what kind of person would set a bomb, you know, next to civilians to try to kill, maim and dismember. i've seen some pretty bad stuff in the military, but this is beyond. >> all five candidates suspended
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campaign after the debate and attended a thursday memorial service with president obama. and by the weekend, the republicans were back on the stump. with democrats following suit monday. marqu making up for one that was delayeded last week and the tone has gotten tough, particularly when it comes to the big issue of the day, national security. >> in terms of the joint terrorism task force, ensuring there was complete cooperation amongst all of the agency, i was in support of doing that. >> but when we created it, you voted no. i understand policy, but when the issue came up to create that joint task force, i voted yes, you voted no. i don't know how you spin that. >> with me now, frank philips. the state house bureau chief for the boston globe. boy, last night in particular
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got pretty nasty between lynch and markey. this was a race many in washington just assumed markey was going to walk away with. john kerry signed off, sort of endorsed, but technically didn't since diplomats don't endorse, but he might as well have. markey cannot put away lynch, can he? >> lynch is there. he's been out working hard. markey has been more behind the scenes in this race and most operatives, most people analyze this think markey still has the upper hand. i wouldn't count on lynch. he's a real scrappy guy, fought hard for every election he's been in and won them. hair has been on fire as one political operative told me. this is a progressive voting block that is going to dominate this election and that's marke yrk's group.
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>> i want to put up a couple of statistics from the last special. it's amazing. you guys are holding more special elections for senate races than senate races that are regularly scheduled lately. in 2009, december 2009, you had under 700,000 democrats show up and about 165,000 republicans. let's look at the democratic primary a minute. 350,000 is is essentially a winning number. would you rather be ed markey looking for 350,000 votes in his district or steven lynch? if they could just get democrats in their own district to show up, you could make those numbers work. >> you could. the problem is in this special election is really being called into question. the process of special elections in massachusetts. voters aren't paying attention. even with these lively debates in the last couple of day, i don't hear people talking about it. even in political circles. people are still confused about when the election is. this has been a couple of months
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of we've had blizzards, an upheaval in city politics with menino dropping out. everybody focused on that. then a big tax debate on beacon hill with the governor's tax plan and then all of a sudden, we have this marathon bombing, which has just taken the oxygen out of the air. these guys like markey, lynch particularly and the two republicans who were trying to challenge mike sullivan, the front-runner on the republican side, need more time to get into this race and get a challenge. build up a challenge to it. because they're not getting there. >> and that's what's amazing. i want to look at the republican side a minute. i talk to many democrats around here and they're only focused on one guy and that's gomez. that's the candidate they think if he gets out of the primary, he presents a real threat in the special general election. they're very dismissive of sullivan, who appears to be the favorite, because it all depends
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on who shows up an votes. >> i have picked that up in the last couple of days. the democratic leadership around here is getting very nervous and gomez winning that election. they want sullivan. he stands for everything that the massachusetts electorate is for or against. he is you know, social conservative. pro gun lobby. all that stuff. gomez is a moderate republican. he is allaty know. they see the koch brothers and karl rove coming in here with huge amounts of money trying to make this a national race against ed markey. markey's fails to really inspire a lot of passion. gomez could come on like gang busters. instilling some fear in the democratic leadership. >> it's interesting how it's playing out and we'll see if bostonians who love politics, it's sort of a second hobby for
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them after the red sox. we'll see if it gets reengaged here before next tuesday. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks. >> the gaggle will be here next to preview the presidential prospects joining the presidents in dallas tomorrow. wait until you see who's showing up tonight. but first, it's the white house soup of the day. every reporter's favorite. we'll be right back. nsurance ag. maxwell is not. he's on geico.com setting up an appointment with an adjuster. ted is now on hold with his insurance company. maxwell is not and just confirmed a 5:30 time for tuesday. ted, is still waiting. yes! maxwell is out and about... with ted's now ex-girlfriend. wheeeee! whoo! later ted! online claims appointments. just a click away on geico.com. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill.
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let's bring in former senior adviser to vice president al gore and also the deputy editor. we need more titles. >> we'll need to expand this. >> you also cover a lot of k street and this stuff.
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this bubbling conversation about intelligence failures, were they there, some of this feels like it's an actual bubbling political controversy that's happening and some of it feels like grandstanding. where is the line here? where is this headed? >> part of both. we're talking about benghazi and hillary clinton because of 2016. >> house report came out the other day about what did hillary know or not know about security in benghazi. >> you'll see companies and security firms start to take advantage of this in terms of getting appropriations and making their case that no one is talking about terrorism for several years and this is their avenue in. >> that's what is coming is the aftermath which is fbi policy is going to change. does that mean you'll see more american citizens if they even accidentally go on a website that has anything radically islamic, they'll see the fbi at their door. >> i think there's as lot of concerns. there's concerns for the people that are already concerned about
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government. government intervention. what is this going to mean? politically it comes down to where does the blame come at the end of all of this and does it land on the president? does it land on anyone? does the people have a sense that our country is headed in the right direction or are we off on the wrong track? politically that's the most important question. >> a lot of this has to do with what do we find out from russians. they've been awfully quiet since this happened. >> there's a lot of information out there and relevant agencies are going through that. i think that's really important and it doesn't fall into the blame matrix. >> it's not clean. that's what people have to realize. >> it's not clean. there's a lot of information coming in. it's very complicated especially when you start factoring in foreign intelligence services and there's a lot of information on a daily basis coming into these. these people do an amazing job. appropriate role for oversight committees to look in? they should. we need to keep it out of the realm of politics and make improvements to the system
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because we live in dangerous times. >> let's go on a lighter note. 2016. there's all of the gathering -- when presidential club gets together, it's kind of cool. there are other people named bush and clinton that will be there. george w. bush is telling anybody who asks, sure, i want jeb to run. >> absolutely. jeb is quietly making the rounds. he's been to new york. he's been to florida. he hasn't officially said he's going to do it but he's doing every single thing that a candidate would do. >> he's admitting he's looking at it. that's a change. he's never gone down that path before. >> the big elephant in the room is that bush baggage in terms of it's been the story blowing up on twitter today because people are saying do we need a third bush here? >> the poster will never say bush. it will always be jeb. it will always be jeb. jeb and hillary are giving speeches today in dallas whether it's a preview or not. they are both technically paid speeches.
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they are giving speeches and whether we sneak in and get at preview, is the country going to want clinton/bush? >> in a political environment where people are tired of the establishment, we're talking about two of the biggest political families and legitimate contenders. secretary clinton is probably more so would be better in her race on the democratic side than jeb. i don't think anybody will roll out the red carpet for jeb. they have to be taken seriously until they say no they have to be recognized. >> president obama's role tomorrow. if it wasn't for george w. bush, there wouldn't be a president obama. let's be pointblank right there. >> one of the things that people find so appealing about president obama is in these big moments being able to capture that historical significance. you'll see that on display tomorrow. frankly, for the bush family, for president bush in particular, this is really the beginning of this first draft of history that's going to be written about his administration. what we see are the events of
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tomorrow behind the scenes lots of activity to try to shape that. >> it's the first time that we've seen that attempt and frankly there is nobody more interested in how this goes than jeb. if this improves at all and i know there's some polling out there, "the washington post,"/abc, i have doubts about how they ask the question. bush is a net negative. does he improve? we'll have more tomorrow. he tries to take it on. these are controversial issues. iraq, afghanistan, katrina, and wall street bailout. they try to take it on. >> he's starting to do the rollout himself. he's talking about his relationship with cheney a little bit. you are starting to see that legacy building really starting to go into overdrive. >> it is. the cheney stuff, cheney's role in this library is this much. >> i'm sure it's a consequence dense. >> shameless plug. >> dallas high school baseball team. dallas/oregon best record in 5a
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right now. we'll see how they do in the playoffs. go dragons. >> happy birthday to tim one day late. we celebrated and here's to you. >> mr. feldman? >> boston rebounding strong. june 20th the jpmorgan case corporate challenge. a race in boston. thanks to the mayor, governor and generous contribution by jpmorgan chase. all proceeds go to the one fun. people should participate. great event. >> go to youtube and check out the conversation that savannah, my old pal, and president obama had about tattoos for the first daughters. that's it for this edition of day day. we'll be live at the george w. bush presidential center at smu, southern methodist university, as all five of the living presidents gather for the first time in more than four years. up next, chris jansing. bye-bye. ♪
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